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Oooh, Doctor Who was rather good this week. The weeping angels are *way* scarier than the Daleks, and River Song is great.

Although, did they *really* have to put that bloody bright yellow 'over the rainbow - coming next' thing across the screen right on the epic finale scene? Grrrrrrr.

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alyse From: alyse Date: April 24th, 2010 06:13 pm (UTC) (Link)
The weeping angels scare the ever-loving crap out of me. It makes me very nostalgic for the years I watched Dr Who from behind the sofa - literally ::g:: Even if these days I just watch it from behind my hands.

Scary, scary episode.
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: April 24th, 2010 06:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think part of it is because I'm very, very squeamish about anything to do with eyes, so the thought of not blinking for an extented period of time just creeps the hell out of me. If I met a weeping angel I'd be dead within two seconds!
alyse From: alyse Date: April 24th, 2010 06:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
It's the eye thing for me, too, but also the fact that they only move when you're not watching them, and you can't turn away, even for a second, and it creeps me the hell out. I always find psychological terror ten times scarier than just gore, and there's something primeval about the whole thing, almost like you're mesmerised by them, knowing that if you look away for a second they'll strike.

And who doesn't have an atavistic fear of statues, the idea that they come to life when you're not looking? It's something, I think, that's hard wired into us because statues look like us but there's something intrinsically wrong with them, something that doesn't speak of life but of things much worse than that.

That or I'm a complete wuss, which is always possible ::g::
entangled_now From: entangled_now Date: April 24th, 2010 06:23 pm (UTC) (Link)
I love the angels, they're a fantastic bad guy.

But I had no idea that was a two-parter!
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: April 24th, 2010 06:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
I had no idea it was a two-parter either. And I'd completely lost track of time as well so I was surprised when the end titles suddenly started.
reggietate From: reggietate Date: April 24th, 2010 06:29 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oooh, Doctor Who was rather good this week. The weeping angels are *way* scarier than the Daleks, and River Song is great.

I really enjoyed it this week (though I liked last week). Great to see them getting off Earth. And Iain Glen as a military cleric *swoon*

Although, did they *really* have to put that bloody bright yellow 'over the rainbow - coming next' thing across the screen right on the epic finale scene? Grrrrrrr.

I know! I was hurling invective at the screen at that point. What a stupid thing to do! I really hate all that coming soon crap and talking over the credits and music.
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: April 24th, 2010 06:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
I was kind of ambivalent about last week's ep, it's the only one so far that I've only watched once. But this week's was very definitely a good, tense ep. Also, River Song is great and I love her relationship with the Doctor and all the little hints.

Honestly, why couldn't they have waited just ten more seconds and done the 'coming next' thing over the titles, not over the episode itself? Especially over such an important scene with the Doctor delivering that line that I've been looking forward to ever since they played it at the end of the first ep.
reggietate From: reggietate Date: April 24th, 2010 07:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
River was fab :-) I think I liked her better this time than last. Thought the timey-wimey aspects make my head hurt worse than Primeval!

Honestly, why couldn't they have waited just ten more seconds and done the 'coming next' thing over the titles, not over the episode itself? Especially over such an important scene with the Doctor delivering that line that I've been looking forward to ever since they played it at the end of the first ep.

My thoughts exactly. It was on next anyway, are they that worried people might turn over? It was completely unnecessary.
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: April 24th, 2010 07:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
are they that worried people might turn over?

Pretty much, yes, I think that's exactly why they do it. It didn't work, or course, I turned over for DW Confidential anyway, but that's not the point. Considering that DW is supposed to be one the BBCs 'flagship' series that gets them loads and loads of viewers, that's potentially a hell of a lot people that they've just pissed off.
bigtitch From: bigtitch Date: April 24th, 2010 06:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
There is no excuse for the Over the Rainbow banner!

Agreed it was a great ep and a brilliant cliffhanger!
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: April 24th, 2010 06:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
I totally wasn't expecting a cliffhanger, that was a complete surprise.

You have to wonder what they're thinking when they put those banners across the screen when it's still in the middle of the bloody programme. Do they honestly think that the audience is going to switch the tv off as soon as the music starts?
lil_shepherd From: lil_shepherd Date: April 24th, 2010 06:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
Complain to the Beeb about the trailer! I thoroughly intend to do so. There has been much complaint already about 'squeezing' the credits to accommodate trailers, and this will really, really make people angry.

Good episode, though.
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: April 24th, 2010 07:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
I might well do. The really annoying thing is I'd been looking forward to that 'never put me in a trap' speech ever since I first heard it on the series trailer, and that stupid banner thing completely distracted me so I missed the speech.
reggietate From: reggietate Date: April 24th, 2010 07:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes, I hate the credit-crunching and yapping over the theme music. They could at least have waited till the creidts to put that stupid banner up, rather than spoiling the climax of the ep. If I was the Moff, I'd be bloody annoyed.
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: April 24th, 2010 07:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm currently on the BBC website pootling around trying to find a forum or contact e-mail to send a complaint to.
telperion_15 From: telperion_15 Date: April 24th, 2010 07:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/homepage/

Edited at 2010-04-24 07:16 pm (UTC)
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: April 24th, 2010 07:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thanks, I was poking around the BBC website for ages and still hadn't found the right page when you and Lil posted the links.

I've complained. Eek, I *never* usually actually make complaints about things.
lil_shepherd From: lil_shepherd Date: April 24th, 2010 07:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: April 24th, 2010 07:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
thanks, I've just submitted a complaint.
reggietate From: reggietate Date: April 24th, 2010 07:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ta. Have just submitted my complaint.
lil_shepherd From: lil_shepherd Date: April 24th, 2010 07:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
I suspect it was meant to go out over the credits, and the programme was running seconds late.

I have suggested to the Beeb that they sack the person responsible.
reggietate From: reggietate Date: April 24th, 2010 07:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
It started at 6.22, so it may indeed have been something like that. I've put in a complaint, anyway I don't expect much will happen, but it can't hurt to try.
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: April 24th, 2010 07:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
I seem to remember it started a little late last week as well. I'll have to remember that if I'm not in and have to set the video recorder to tape it.

I don't expect much will happen, but it can't hurt to try.

Well, if enough people complain they might think twice about doing it again in future. Maybe. *shrugs*. Although if it was a mistake due to an automated thing that was out of synch because the programme was running late I don't suppose there's a lot they can do.
telperion_15 From: telperion_15 Date: April 24th, 2010 07:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
I seem to remember it started a little late last week as well. I'll have to remember that if I'm not in and have to set the video recorder to tape it.

Makes a change from it starting early, which it went through a phase of doing one year. The were several instances of me switching on the TV at the exact time it was supposed to start and finding it had *already* started...
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: April 24th, 2010 07:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
That's why I usually put the tv on about ten or fifteen minutes early. Admittedly that means I then have to sit through whatever rubbish is on before the programme that I actually want to watch, but I just tend to mute it and keep an eye out for when the credits start rolling.

Speaking of which, it's nearly time for Casualty...

Random - do you think anyone would be up for ARC chat later?

Edited at 2010-04-24 07:56 pm (UTC)
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: April 24th, 2010 09:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
ARC chat? There's a bunch of us in there now.
reggietate From: reggietate Date: April 24th, 2010 07:53 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes, they can - they can make sure the programmes don't run late. Dispensing with what amounts to adverts for the marathon would be a start ;-)

Luckily I have a PVR that can usually manage to work out exactly when a programme starts. I'd seriously suggest you invest in one, they're brilliant, and these days not madly expensive.
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: April 24th, 2010 09:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
don't know if you're around, but there's a bunch of us in the ARC chat right now.
reggietate From: reggietate Date: April 24th, 2010 09:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
Rewatching Primeval ep 1 right now, and trying to do some writing, but I might drop in later :-)
inamac From: inamac Date: April 24th, 2010 08:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
Actually there is a great deal they can do. Like remembering that the whole point of the BBC being funded by licence payers is NOT to have adverts and confining them to the bits BETWEEN programmes.

I feel quite sorry for the poor chap who actually pressed the button - when the heads that should roll are far higher up in the BBC hierarchy.
telperion_15 From: telperion_15 Date: April 24th, 2010 06:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
So agree about the rainbow graphic! They've basically been using that scene to 'big up' the new Doctor ever since they started advertising the series, and then they go and do that! *growls*

Having said that, the ep was about 100 times better than last weeks - the bit with the angel moving in the recording scared the crap out of me! *g* Although River and the Doctor's timelines give me a headache...
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: April 24th, 2010 07:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
This ep was sooooo much better than last week's. Honestly, I've never really seen why the Daleks are meant to be so scary. Weeping angels, on the other hand, are bloody creepy as hell.

I do like River Song, she's a great character, and it's nice to see someone who knows the Doctor who doesn't just seem to be awe of him like a lot of people are. There's obviously a lot of resepct and affection, but at the same time she enjoys making fun of him.
telperion_15 From: telperion_15 Date: April 24th, 2010 07:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
Actually, my biggest problem with the show at the moment (and I don't know if you or anyone else are having this issue), is that I think their sound mix is really off. I have to turn my TV volume up by at least 10 points to be able to hear what anyone's saying clearly - the voices always seem really quite compared to the music/sound effects.
reggietate From: reggietate Date: April 24th, 2010 07:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm a bit deef anyway, so I tend to turn the sound up rather higher :-)
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: April 24th, 2010 07:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
I've not noticed it particuarly, although I have to admit it does sometimes takes me a couple of watchings to pick everything up properly.
inamac From: inamac Date: April 24th, 2010 08:13 pm (UTC) (Link)
There's this wonderful thing called 'subtitles' (and yes, I'm deaf and in any case the background music all too often drowns out dialogue.
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