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Article in The Guardian about fanfiction - athene
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Article in The Guardian about fanfiction
I just found this article in the Guardian online about fanfiction, mostly with reference to Fifty Shades, but with a general overview of 'the history' of fanfiction.

I don't agree with several points made in it (and neither do several of the people who have commented on it so far!), but it's worth a read.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/aug/13/fan-fiction-fifty-shades-grey

Hmmmm... Don't know what made me stop by the Guardian. I was on my way to Amazon to buy more books! *checks time* I can still upload something new to my kindle before bed...

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cordeliadelayne From: cordeliadelayne Date: August 13th, 2012 10:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ugh, I gave up reading after a paragraph. The writer's an idiot.
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: August 14th, 2012 04:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, I lost a lot of respect at the point where he gave a completely incorrect definition of slash! And all the vast, sweeping (and frequently incorrect) generalisations...
nietie From: nietie Date: August 14th, 2012 12:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think llincathryn's comment (posted 13 August 7:30PM)is spot on!

I didn't know Fifty Shades of Grey originated from fanfic! I haven't read it yet, and I don't think I will. First of all because it's het with some BDSM (I don't mind het nor BDSM, but not three books full of it), but most of all, because I hear it's badly written. I rather prefer fanfic on my favourite comm *g*
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: August 14th, 2012 04:53 pm (UTC) (Link)
I might pop back and see what other comments have been made on it since last night. I think the article must have appeared in the evening, because there weren't many comments when i read it.

Yeah, I'm not overly keen on reading it, mostly because I've heard it's so badly written. Which is a shame, because otherwise, I actually quite like reading het bdsm... ;-)
louisedennis From: louisedennis Date: August 14th, 2012 12:38 pm (UTC) (Link)
I love the logic fail of the commenter who singles out a link as "the worst fanfic ever" and then describes it as "sadly representative".

I don't think the article is bad bad but it does seem to fall into the problem of fixating on the sex and then trying to offer up pop psychology to explain a phenomena the author doesn't properly understand. I've read much better mainstream articles explaining fan fiction, though I have also read much worse.
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: August 14th, 2012 04:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes, I noticed the fixating on the sex thing, and the frequently incorrect definitions of things (such as slash, for starters!). Didn't really inspire confidence in the writer's ability to offer sensible commentary.

It was certainly interesting to see an article about fanfic in the Guardian, and get a viewpoint of how others outside of fanom see it.
louisedennis From: louisedennis Date: August 14th, 2012 07:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
The Lev Grossman article in time referenced by several of the commenters (and which can be found here) is much better and shows that mainstream journalists can do this properly if they care to.
fredbassett From: fredbassett Date: August 14th, 2012 01:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
What a vile, badly researched article.

Looks like the author has got quite a hang up about sex.
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: August 14th, 2012 05:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes, the focus on sex really wasn't useful, neither were the several factual inacuracies, and vast sweeping generalisations.

This is the kind of thing behind my refusal to read fanfic at Writers' Club, and the fact that I've only told a few people at the club who I know understand it.
fredbassett From: fredbassett Date: August 14th, 2012 05:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
I hate the way the bloody article just reinforces all the prejudices that still make fanfic writers feel like pariahs!
jaynedoll From: jaynedoll Date: August 14th, 2012 04:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
I didn't agree with some of it but it was interesting to see an article on fanfic.
There are plenty of spinoffs of existing TV series/Films like all the Dr Who audio books that could be classed as fanfic - I don't think being professional/getting paid for it makes it any less fanfic (if that makes sense).

And there is more to fanfic than sex & I think you're on very dodgy ground if you start generalising on people's motives for writing certain types of fanfic.

I do think tho' that many years from now slashfic/fanfic will become an accepted part of the marketing for a TV series/film - that the makers will incorporate it in spin off novels etc.
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: August 14th, 2012 05:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
It was definitely interesting to see an article in mainstream media about fanfic, although it;s a shame the writer made so many sweeping generalisations, factual innacuraceies, and focussed on the sex so much. :-(

The whole thing with TV tie-in novels, etc, is intereting. I suppose the main difference really is the fact that 'official' stuff is generally commisioned and paid for, whereas fanfic is written by fans simply for fun and the love of the show/book/whatever.
reggietate From: reggietate Date: August 15th, 2012 07:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
Just been reading this, and the many comments. I see our very own steamshovelmama spoke up. Good for her! :-) The article writer doesn't seem to have done a lot in the way of research and is rightly getting it in the neck from many commentators for his misconceptions.
deinonychus_1 From: deinonychus_1 Date: August 16th, 2012 07:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oooh, I didn't get that far in the comments thread, I might have to go back for another look.

There are *so many* innacuracies, it's no wonder people have jumped on hm!
reggietate From: reggietate Date: August 16th, 2012 07:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
There are some sizable berks among the commentators, too, but at least some of them have the excuse of not trying to write about fanfic in a well-respected newspaper!
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